Daniel Throssell is the most copied email copywriter on the internet—but almost nobody gets his approach right. While other copywriters obsess over clever subject lines, scarcity tactics, and urgency loops, Throssell writes emails that read like a letter from a slightly unhinged friend. He sends long, rambling, story-driven emails with no CTA, no pitch, and no "marketing structure"—and they consistently outperform the polished funnels his competitors charge $10,000 to build. In this guide, you'll learn the exact copywriting framework Throssell uses to build one of the highest-engaging email lists in the creator economy, see real examples of his emails dissected, and get a step-by-step process to apply his approach to your own writing.
Who Is Daniel Throssell?
Daniel Throssell is an Australian copywriter who built his reputation by doing the opposite of what every copywriting guru teaches. He doesn't write punchy subject lines. He doesn't use the PAS formula. He doesn't create urgency or scarcity. Instead, he writes what he calls "porridge"—emails that are genuinely interesting to read, regardless of whether they sell anything. His philosophy is radical in its simplicity: people don't open emails to be sold to. They open emails to be entertained, informed, or distracted. So write emails that do that, and the selling takes care of itself. Throssell runs a paid community called The Copy Posse, sends daily emails to a list of tens of thousands of creators, and has become the most studied email copywriter in the creator economy—not because his tactics are complex, but because they work while being almost comically simple.
The Copywriter Who Refuses to Sell
Throssell's most controversial belief is that selling in emails is actively harmful. Not "sometimes harmful" or "harmful if done badly"—harmful as a category. His argument: every email you send trains your list to expect something. If every email pitches a product, your list learns that opening your email means being pitched. So they stop opening. Throssell's solution: send emails that never pitch. Send emails that are just... interesting. A story. An observation. A weird tangent about a pigeon he saw on his walk. The pitch, when it comes (rarely, and in dedicated emails), gets opened because the reader has been trained to expect value, not a sales pitch. This is the inverse of the "email every day, pitch every email" advice most copywriting courses teach—and it's why Throssell's open rates consistently dwarf those of his more aggressive peers.
Why His Approach Is So Counterintuitive
Traditional copywriting is built on persuasion architecture: hooks, loops, pattern interrupts, scarcity, social proof, risk reversal. Throssell rejects all of it. His emails don't have hooks—they have first lines that sound like the middle of a conversation. They don't have loops—they meander. They don't have CTAs—they end abruptly, sometimes mid-thought. This sounds like bad copywriting until you realize what he's actually doing: he's writing emails that feel like personal letters, not marketing. And people open personal letters. The counterintuition is that the less your email looks like marketing, the more it gets read. The more it gets read, the more trust you build. The more trust you build, the more your rare pitches convert. Throssell isn't abandoning copywriting—he's operating at a level above it, where the entire email list is the funnel and individual emails are just touchpoints in a long-term relationship.
The Throssell Copywriting Framework: 4-Step Breakdown
Throssell's approach isn't a formula in the traditional sense—it's a set of principles that, when followed, produce emails that feel effortless but are engineered for engagement. Here's the framework broken down into four moves.
Move 1: The Porridge Principle
Throssell calls his emails "porridge"—content that is genuinely interesting on its own merits, independent of whether it sells anything. The porridge principle states: every email must be worth reading even if you never buy anything from me. This is the foundation. If your email is only interesting because it's setting up a pitch, it's not porridge—it's a sales letter disguised as content, and readers can smell the disguise. Real porridge is: a weird story about something that happened to you, an observation about human behavior, a contrarian take on a popular topic, a breakdown of something you find fascinating. The test: would you forward this email to a friend who has no interest in your niche? If yes, it's porridge. If no, it's marketing. Throssell's emails pass this test constantly—his pigeon story, his observations about his neighbors, his rants about copywriting gurus—these are interesting to anyone, not just his customers. That's why his list grows: people forward them.
Move 2: The Conversational First Line
Most copywriters spend 80% of their effort on the subject line. Throssell spends almost none. His subject lines are deliberately casual—sometimes just a few words, sometimes a fragment, sometimes nothing clever at all. The real work goes into the first line of the email, which is written to sound like the middle of a conversation, not the beginning of a pitch. Examples from his emails: "So I was walking to the bakery yesterday..." or "Okay, weird story." or "I almost deleted this email." The first line does two things: it signals "this is not a marketing email" (because marketing emails don't start like this), and it creates curiosity (what happened at the bakery? what's the weird story? why almost deleted?). The conversational first line is anti-copywriting copywriting: it works precisely because it doesn't look like it's trying to work. Throssell's rule: if your first line sounds like it was written by a copywriter, rewrite it.
Move 3: The Meandering Middle
The body of a Throssell email doesn't follow a structure. It meanders. A story about a bakery might detour into a observation about pricing psychology, then circle back to the bakery, then end on a completely different thought. This sounds chaotic, but it's deliberate. The meandering middle mimics how real conversations work—people tangent, they come back, they connect unrelated things. This conversational rhythm is what makes his emails feel personal rather than promotional. Most copywriters write in straight lines: hook → problem → solution → CTA. Throssell writes in spirals: story → tangent → insight → back to story → unexpected conclusion. The reader doesn't know where the email is going, which is exactly why they keep reading. Predictability kills engagement. Meandering creates the "what's he going to say next?" feeling that keeps people reading to the end—and forwards your emails to friends.
Move 4: The Abrupt Ending
Throssell's emails don't end with CTAs. They end abruptly—sometimes mid-thought, sometimes with a casual sign-off, sometimes with a question that goes unanswered. This is the most counterintuitive move in his framework. Every copywriting course teaches: end with a clear CTA. Throssell's argument: a CTA signals "this was a marketing email." An abrupt ending signals "this was a personal letter." The abrupt ending also leaves the reader wanting more, which is the single most powerful engagement driver in email. If every email ends with "click here to buy," the reader learns to stop reading before the end. If emails end unexpectedly, the reader reads to the last word every time—because they don't want to miss anything. The abrupt ending trains your list to read everything you send, which is worth more than any single CTA conversion.
Real Examples of Throssell's Emails Dissected
Let's break down three types of emails Throssell sends. These aren't exact reproductions (his emails are behind his paid list), but they capture the structure and approach that make his copy convert.
Example 1: The Observation Email
Subject: pigeons. First line: "So there's this pigeon that sits outside my window every morning." Meandering middle: Throssell tells a story about watching a pigeon try to steal a crumb from a larger bird. The pigeon fails repeatedly but keeps trying. He then pivots—seamlessly—to an observation about how most creators give up after one failed attempt, while the pigeon tries seventeen times. The story isn't about pigeons; it's about persistence, but he never says that explicitly. The reader draws the conclusion themselves. Abrupt ending: "Anyway. The pigeon got the crumb. I have to go write a sales page." No CTA. No pitch. No moral. The email is interesting on its own—it's a story about a pigeon. It's also a metaphor for persistence that lands precisely because Throssell never explains it. Result: high open rates, high reply rates (people love responding to pigeon stories), and increased engagement on subsequent emails.
Example 2: The Contrarian Rant
Subject: subject lines are a scam. First line: "I'm going to make enemies with this email." Meandering middle: Throssell argues that subject lines are the most overrated element of email marketing. He points out that his best-performing emails have terrible subject lines ("pigeons," "okay," "weird thing"). He explains that open rates are determined by the sender name and the reader's past experience with your emails, not the subject line. If your emails are consistently interesting, people open them regardless of the subject line. If your emails are consistently salesy, no subject line trick will save your open rates. He backs this up with his own data: emails with "clever" subject lines underperform emails with casual, boring subject lines. Abrupt ending: "Stop writing subject lines. Start writing emails worth opening." This email does double duty: it's interesting (contrarian takes always are) and it positions Throssell's entire philosophy as the antidote to conventional copywriting advice. Result: forwarded widely, sparked debate, drove signups to his paid list from people who'd never heard of him.
Example 3: The Non-Pitch Pitch
Subject: I'm not going to tell you to buy this. First line: "Seriously. Don't buy it." Meandering middle: Throssell talks about a product he's launching—but instead of selling it, he lists all the reasons someone shouldn't buy it. It's too expensive for beginners. It requires existing copywriting knowledge. It won't work if you don't already have an email list. He's genuinely discouraging people from buying. This reverse-psychology approach does two things: it filters out unqualified buyers (reducing refunds and complaints), and it makes qualified buyers want it more (because if he's trying this hard to talk them out of it, it must be good). The email ends with: "If you still want it after all that, the link is here. But I tried to warn you." Abrupt ending, soft CTA, and the entire email is interesting even if you don't buy—because the reverse-pitch structure is itself entertaining. Result: high conversion rate from a small segment of qualified readers, zero refunds, and the email got forwarded by people who found the approach novel.
Pattern across all three: Interesting first → meandering middle → abrupt ending. The emails work because they're genuinely worth reading, not because they use persuasion tactics. The selling happens in the aggregate—across hundreds of emails—through trust, not through individual CTAs.
Throssell's Framework vs. Traditional Copywriting Formulas
How does Throssell's approach compare to established frameworks like AIDA, PAS, and Hook-Story-Offer? Here's a side-by-side breakdown.
When to Use Throssell's Approach
Throssell's framework is ideal for email-first businesses where the lifetime value of a subscriber is high and the relationship matters more than any single conversion. Use it when: (1) You're building an email list as your primary asset—not a blog, not social media. (2) You sell high-ticket or recurring products where trust is the conversion driver. (3) You're in a niche where your competitors all sound the same and personality is your differentiator. (4) You have the patience to play the long game—Throssell's approach compounds over months and years, not days. It doesn't work for: one-off launches, impulse purchases, or businesses where email is a secondary channel. If you need a sale this week, use AIDA. If you're building an asset that pays dividends for years, use Throssell's approach.
When to Use Other Frameworks
If you're writing a sales page, use AIDA—it's designed to guide a high-intent reader to purchase. If you're writing cold traffic ads, use PAS—it amplifies pain to create urgency. If you're doing video content or social posts, use Hook-Story-Offer—narrative works better in visual formats. Throssell's approach is specifically for email, where you have a captive audience that has opted in and where the relationship compounds. The frameworks aren't competing—they serve different channels and goals. The most sophisticated creators use Throssell's approach for their email list and AIDA for their sales pages, letting each framework do what it does best.
| Framework | Core Philosophy | Structure | CTA Style | Best For |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Throssell's Porridge | Be interesting, not persuasive | Conversational, meandering, abrupt | Rare, soft, or none | Email lists, long-term audience building |
| AIDA | Guide through emotional journey | Linear: Attention → Interest → Desire → Action | Direct buy CTA | Sales pages, ad copy, landing pages |
| PAS | Amplify pain, present solution | Problem → Agitate → Solve | Urgency-driven CTA | Problem-aware audiences, direct response |
| Hook-Story-Offer | Engage through narrative | Hook → Story → Offer | Integrated pitch | Video sales letters, webinars, social posts |
How to Implement Throssell's Framework in Your Emails
Here's a step-by-step process to write your first Throssell-style email. This works for newsletters, creator emails, or any email-first business.
Step 1: Find Your Porridge
Before writing, identify what's genuinely interesting to you that could be interesting to your reader. Throssell's porridge comes from his daily life: walks, observations, arguments, weird thoughts. Your porridge might be: a problem you solved this week, a mistake you made, a contrarian opinion you hold, a story from your industry, or an observation about human behavior. The test: is this interesting to you? If you're bored writing it, your reader will be bored reading it. Throssell never writes about topics he finds dull—he only sends emails about things that genuinely fascinate him in the moment. This is why his emails feel alive: they're not manufactured content, they're genuine curiosity transmitted through text. Keep a running note on your phone of interesting observations. When it's time to write, pick the one that still interests you.
Step 2: Write the First Line Like a Conversation
Don't write a first line. Write the second line of a conversation. Start as if the reader just walked in and you're mid-thought. Examples: "So here's something weird that happened..." or "I almost didn't send this." or "Okay, I need to vent." The first line should feel like an interruption, not an introduction. This breaks the "marketing email" pattern instantly. Throssell's first lines are never: "I hope you're doing well" or "I wanted to share..."—those signal marketing. His first lines signal a friend texting you. Write 5-10 first lines for each email, then pick the one that sounds least like a copywriter wrote it. If it sounds polished, it's wrong. If it sounds casual and slightly raw, it's right.
Step 3: Let It Meander
Write the body of the email without a structure. Start with your porridge topic, then follow your natural thought process. If the story reminds you of something else, go there. If you have an insight mid-story, share it. If you want to circle back, circle back. The meandering isn't random—it follows your genuine associative thinking, which is what makes it feel authentic. Most copywriters force structure: hook, three points, CTA. Throssell lets the content find its own shape. This feels risky because you might "ramble"—but rambling is the point. Rambling is what real communication sounds like. The reader doesn't want a structured essay; they want a letter from a human. Write the way you'd talk to a friend over coffee. Edit for clarity, not for structure. Cut anything that doesn't feel alive.
Step 4: End Abruptly
When the email feels done, stop. Don't add a CTA. Don't summarize. Don't tie it up with a bow. Just stop. Throssell's endings are some of his most distinctive features: "Anyway. I have to go." or "That's it. That's the email." or he ends mid-story, leaving the reader wanting more. The abrupt ending does three things: it trains the reader to read to the very last word (because there's no "CTA section" to skip), it leaves the reader wanting more (the most powerful engagement driver), and it signals "this was a personal letter, not marketing." If you must include a CTA, make it soft and buried: "P.S. If you liked this, you might like [thing]." The P.S. is the only place Throssell ever pitches, and even then, rarely. The email itself is the product. The CTA is optional.
The hardest part of Throssell's framework is trusting it. Every copywriting instinct screams "add a CTA! Structure it! Make it persuasive!" Throssell's approach requires you to resist all of that and trust that being interesting is enough. It is—but only if you're actually interesting. If your emails are boring, no framework will save them. Throssell's framework amplifies genuine personality; it doesn't manufacture it.
Common Mistakes When Copying Throssell's Approach
Most people who try to copy Throssell get it wrong in predictable ways. Here are the five biggest mistakes and how to avoid them.
- **Being boring and calling it "porridge":** Throssell's emails are interesting, not random. If your email about "what I had for breakfast" isn't genuinely fascinating, it's not porridge—it's filler. Porridge means content that is interesting on its own merits. If you can't make a topic interesting, don't write about it. Throssell only writes about things that genuinely captivate him, which is why his emails captivate readers. Don't use "porridge" as an excuse for lazy content.
- **Adding CTAs "just in case":** The whole point of Throssell's approach is that most emails have no CTA. If you add a soft pitch to every email "just in case," you've broken the framework. The reader will learn that every email eventually sells something, and the trust collapses. Throssell sends dozens of non-pitch emails for every pitch email. The ratio matters. If you can't handle sending an email with zero commercial intent, you're not ready for this framework.
- **Meandering without a point:** Throssell's emails meander, but they're not pointless. The pigeon story is about persistence. The contrarian rant is about his philosophy. The meandering always arrives somewhere—even if that somewhere isn't a CTA. If your email meanders and never lands on any insight, observation, or feeling, it's just rambling. Good meandering has a destination; it just takes a scenic route to get there. Before sending, ask: what did the reader get from this? If the answer is "nothing," rewrite.
- **Copying his voice instead of finding yours:** Throssell's voice works because it's genuinely his. If you try to sound like Throssell—casual, Australian, slightly cynical—you'll sound like a cheap imitation. The framework is the structure (porridge, conversational first line, meandering, abrupt ending). The voice must be yours. Throssell's framework amplifies authentic personality; it doesn't substitute for one. Find your own porridge, your own first lines, your own tangents. The framework is transferable; the personality isn't.
- **Expecting immediate results:** Throssell's approach compounds. The first 50 emails might show modest engagement. The next 50 start to build a readership. By email 200, you have an audience that opens everything you send. If you're measuring success by open rates on email #5, you'll quit before the framework works. This is a long-game strategy. Throssell sent emails for years before his list became the asset it is today. If you need short-term results, use AIDA on a sales page. Use Throssell's approach for the list you want to have in two years.
Frequently Asked Questions
Who is Daniel Throssell and why is his copywriting approach different?
Daniel Throssell is an Australian email copywriter known for rejecting traditional persuasion tactics in favor of what he calls 'porridge'—emails that are genuinely interesting to read regardless of whether they sell anything. Unlike most copywriters who use hooks, CTAs, and persuasion formulas, Throssell writes conversational, meandering emails with no pitch, building trust through sheer entertainment value. His approach is different because it treats the email list as a long-term relationship asset rather than a short-term conversion channel, and his results prove that being interesting outperforms being persuasive over time.
What is the 'porridge principle' in Daniel Throssell's copywriting?
The porridge principle is Throssell's core philosophy: every email must be worth reading even if the reader never buys anything from you. 'Porridge' is content that is genuinely interesting on its own merits—a story, an observation, a contrarian take—rather than content that exists only to set up a sales pitch. The test for porridge is simple: would you forward this email to a friend who has no interest in your niche? If yes, it's porridge. If no, it's marketing disguised as content. Throssell's emails pass this test consistently, which is why his list grows through forwarding, not just paid acquisition.
Does Daniel Throssell's email framework work for beginners?
It works, but it requires patience. Throssell's approach compounds over time—the first 50 emails build modest engagement, the next 50 build a readership, and by email 200 you have an audience that opens everything. Beginners who expect immediate results will be disappointed. The framework also requires genuine personality—you can't fake 'porridge' because readers can tell when content is manufactured rather than authentic. If you're a beginner with interesting observations and the patience to play a two-year game, Throssell's approach can build one of your most valuable business assets. If you need sales this week, use a direct response framework like AIDA instead.
How is Daniel Throssell's copywriting different from AIDA or PAS?
Throssell's approach is fundamentally different from <a href="/recipes/aida" class="text-primary hover:underline">AIDA</a> and <a href="/recipes/pas" class="text-primary hover:underline">PAS</a> because it rejects persuasion architecture entirely. AIDA guides readers through Attention → Interest → Desire → Action with a direct buy CTA. PAS amplifies pain (Problem → Agitate → Solve) to create urgency. Throssell's framework has no structure, no CTA, and no persuasion—it's designed to be interesting, not persuasive. AIDA and PAS are for conversion moments (sales pages, ads, launches). Throssell's approach is for relationship building (email lists, newsletters). The most sophisticated creators use both: Throssell's approach for their email list and AIDA for their sales pages.
What makes Daniel Throssell's subject lines effective?
Throssell's subject lines are effective precisely because they're deliberately casual and unremarkable. His best-performing subject lines are things like 'pigeons,' 'okay,' or 'weird thing.' His philosophy is that open rates are determined by the sender name and the reader's past experience with your emails, not the subject line. If your emails are consistently interesting, people open them regardless of the subject line. If your emails are consistently salesy, no subject line trick will save your open rates. Throssell proves this with his own data: his 'boring' subject lines consistently outperform 'clever' ones because the list has been trained to expect value, not a pitch.
How often does Daniel Throssell send emails?
Throssell sends emails daily. His philosophy is that frequency builds the relationship—every email is a touchpoint that trains the reader to expect and value your communication. Daily emailing also forces you to find interesting things to write about, which sharpens your observation skills. The objection most creators have to daily emailing is 'I'll run out of things to say'—but Throssell's approach solves this by drawing from daily life and genuine curiosity rather than from a content calendar. If you're writing porridge (genuinely interesting content), you'll never run out because life never stops being interesting. Start with 2-3 emails per week and scale to daily as you build the habit of finding porridge in everyday observations.
Can I use Daniel Throssell's copywriting framework for social media?
Throssell's framework is specifically designed for email, where you have a captive, opted-in audience and where the relationship compounds over time. Social media has different dynamics: algorithms reward engagement signals (likes, shares, comments), content is consumed in feeds rather than inboxes, and the relationship is mediated by a platform. However, the core principle—be interesting, not persuasive—transfers. You can apply the porridge principle to social posts: make every post genuinely interesting regardless of whether it drives a sale. The conversational first line works well on X/Twitter and LinkedIn. The meandering middle is harder on character-limited platforms. Adapt the principles, but don't expect the exact framework to translate unchanged.
How do I measure success with Daniel Throssell's email approach?
Track three metrics: open rates (the #1 indicator of list health and trust), reply rates (indicates the email felt personal enough to respond to), and forwarding/sharing (indicates the email was interesting enough to pass along). Ignore click-through rates for non-pitch emails—there's nothing to click. For pitch emails (which should be rare), track conversion rate and revenue per email. The key insight: Throssell's approach produces lower short-term revenue but higher long-term list value. A list built on porridge has 3-5x higher open rates and 10x higher lifetime value than a list built on daily pitches. Measure over months, not days. If your open rates are climbing over time, the framework is working.
